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VISA issuers and Mastercard make it harder to buy Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies Posted Feb 5, 2018 by Justin Mauldin (@JustMauldin)
VISA issuers and Mastercard make it harder to buy Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies
Posted Feb 5, 2018 by Justin Mauldin (@JustMauldin)
VISA issuers and Mastercard make it harder to buy Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies
Posted Feb 5, 2018 by Justin Mauldin (@JustMauldin)Richard Bowles · Oklahoma City, Oklahoma
I guess this is the credit cards company's way of cashing in on crypto without having to actually buy some. The fact the fees are so high ~ lends itself to an unaccredited / scammy appearance of cryptocurrencies...
Banks have been scammy for ever - BOA is closing down most of their internal branches - my local branch has office hours of 9am - 4pm ... intentionally dodging 5pm after work rush.. and 8am pre work rush .. usually dodging customers would be bad for business... but apparently BOA ran the numbers. *not to mention their 1500 daily average balance for free checking.
Like · Reply · Feb 5, 2018 1:22pm
Ari Mattson
Who needs to go to a bank branch? Everything can be done on your mobile. Cost saving for the business and time saving for the consumer.
Like · Reply · 2 · Feb 5, 2018 3:28pm
Richard Bowles · Oklahoma City, Oklahoma
Ari Mattson Please share how to deposit cash through my mobile? Perhaps I want to speak with the loan manager about a loan? Getting a cashiers check for closing on a house.. There is certainly a reason cause every time I go there is a long line.
Like · Reply · 2 · Feb 5, 2018 4:12pm
Jeremy Krumsick
Richard Bowles Why deposit cash? Who has cash these days that needs to be deposited except businesses? Use Venmo or quickpay or something else. Why not call the loan manager instead of visit in person? Sure, get a cashiers check from the Bank. One of the last reasons you need to go. Anyway this banter makes no difference to the banks - who see their branches as what they are - large expenses that have reduced in value and hence they'll keep pairing them down.
Like · Reply · Feb 6, 2018 7:57am
Jon Targasian
Because you are buying currency.
Like · Reply · 5 · Feb 5, 2018 1:35pm
Steve Davies · The University of Auckland
PONZI's need money to continue growing. Crypto is already being decimated.... this is another nail in the coffin.
Like · Reply · 1 · Feb 5, 2018 1:42pm
Covey WhiteGold · Edmonton, Alberta
Ever hear of localbitcoins or ATM Bitcoin Machines every where??? Thier are many, many ways other than credit or debit cards to purchase Bitcoin, quickly and safely.
Like · Reply · 3 · Feb 5, 2018 1:53pm
Tee Baggin · Las Vegas, Nevada
With a fee of 18-19 percent on the highest atms others are around 6-9% so if you can find the right btc ATM you can get the same price as coinbase and you can be anonyomous.
Like · Reply · Feb 6, 2018 4:11pm
Mike Brown
The genie is out of the bottle already.They are just delaying their own downfall....An alternative to these greedy gatekeeprs will be created.
Like · Reply · 2 · Feb 5, 2018 2:27pm
Ari Mattson
BTC is a (highly-fluctuating) asset, not a currency. Until it become stable, crypto won't be adopted as a currency replacement.
Like · Reply · 3 · Feb 5, 2018 3:31pm
Steve Davies · The University of Auckland
Really? If I buy a $3 coffee using bitcoin, the transaction cost is $40. Tell me who is ripping off who now??
Like · Reply · 2 · Feb 5, 2018 4:56pm
Chris Barnett
Ari Mattson Most cryptocurrency maximists aren't gunning for BTC to become a replacement currency....national fiat currencies are much needed. BTC is a good place to park wealth up on the medium term. It's has become a medium to long term store of wealth.
Like · Reply · 2 · Feb 5, 2018 6:37pm
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Hong Li · Mountain View, California
Maybe it has something to do with a recent surge in credit card delinquencies:
https://www.forbes.com/.../are-americans-buying.../...
https://seekingalpha.com/.../4139135-credit-card...
Like · Reply · 2 · Feb 5, 2018 2:39pm
Jenner Little
The banking system is terrififed and think we'll see many knee jerk reactions and proxy fights with crypto as they either adapt or die.
Like · Reply · 1 · Feb 5, 2018 3:18pm
Steve Davies · The University of Auckland
Banks and credit card companies are in the business of credit. Why would they fret over crypto?? Crypto requires the user to exchange real money for over 1200 different coins or tokens that you can do nothing with. There is no benefit here for the end consumer.
Like · Reply · Feb 5, 2018 4:59pm
Tien V Nguyen · San Diego, California
"Currently, if you want to buy bitcoin, ethereum or any other alt-coin instantly, the *only* option is to use your debit or credit card. Transferring funds from your bank has lower fees, but takes several days. "
Not sure you understand what "only" means.
Like · Reply · 2 · Feb 5, 2018 4:45pm
Danny Baker · Ohio state
They specifically say if you want to buy it INSTANTLY, credit/debit is only option. True statement
Like · Reply · 1 · Feb 5, 2018 11:09pm
Steve Davies · The University of Auckland
Credit card companies and banks are not worried by Bitcoin, because they are in the business of credit. Once people get their head around that, then you will realise that crypto doesn't really stand a chance when you consider most of middle America owes money.
Like · Reply · 1 · Feb 5, 2018 4:53pm
Jeremy Krumsick
This is true. What the credit cards have is a great way to... build credit. So comments like this - "The rise of bitcoin and future cryptocurrency is tied to the eventual fall of financial middlemen like VISA and Mastercard. Maybe they just woke up to it." aren't getting the full picture.
Like · Reply · Feb 6, 2018 8:01am
Thomas Staskiewicz · City Of Port-Of-Spain, Port-Of-Spain, Trinidad And Tobago
hahaha they really are scared now huh. Finally something rattles there cages! If they think adding fees is gonna help deter people then they are wrong...them adding fees is THE EXACT REASON we need cryptocurrencies more than ever to cut them down at the knees. That 10% will cost them more than they thing 😂😂
Like · Reply · 2 · Feb 5, 2018 5:57pm
Rafael Kireyev · Almaty University of Power Engineering and Telecommunications
They have preferred "war" to integration. So, soon there will be a lot of new "Kodaks."
Like · Reply · 2 · Feb 5, 2018 6:16pm
Chris Barnett
This is a GOOD thing. OK. It's a GOOD thing. 5% is nothing compared to the gains, but it eliminates a lot of the risks associated with chargebacks.
People will still buy lots of cryptos with their debit cards, but with it being pegged as a cash advance, then there is a lot less risk from chargebacks.
That means that the whoever runs the merchant account for the exchange, doesn't have to run any risks, nor will be knocking on the door for the exchange for collateral to cover 3 months worth of transactions.
That was hampering growth.
Why do you think Coinbase had to raise loads of money so they can service new users? Most of it would have been tied up as collataral against debit/credit card chargebacks....See More
Like · Reply · Feb 5, 2018 6:33pm
Joe Bell · H.N.I.C. at I don't work for you, that's all you need to know.
Hakem
Like · Reply · 1 · Feb 5, 2018 7:07pm
Tomaž Wigele · Ekonomsko-poslovna fakulteta Maribor
"The rise of bitcoin and future cryptocurrency is tied to the eventual fall of financial middlemen like VISA and Mastercard. Maybe they just woke up to it."
BOOM!
Like · Reply · Feb 5, 2018 11:53pm
Prakash Nadar · N G Acharya and D K Marathe College
Yes this totally makes sense.. Buying cash with credit is what peoplepare doing.
Like · Reply · Feb 6, 2018 2:26am
Dominic Watson · R&D Developer at XCaliber
This is a cartel
Like · Reply · Feb 6, 2018 4:30am
Charles Root Jr · Underhill, Vermont
So go to the store, buy a one use debit card, go to Coinbase, use the debit card there. No fee.
Like · Reply · Feb 6, 2018 5:55am
Azrael Franc · Itt-Technical Institute Richardson,Texas
They wouldnt be fighting it, if it wasnt a threat to their predatory banking system, the more the banking cartels fight crypto the more I will trust it. When have banks ever looked out for our best interest, examples such as Wells Fargo, Bank of America, HSBC etc speak for themselves.
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