Domestic abusers? What about due process?

arriba65 • 13 hours ago

Anything that makes it harder for domestic abusers to get guns is a good thing. That's one of my biggest beefs with NRA - they actually try to protect the gun "rights" of domestic abusers! That and allowing those on no-fly list to buy guns. If the problem is people not guns, let's focus on the people.

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  Nathan Brittles  arriba65 • 12 hours ago

  You are not being honest here. [liberals rarely are when the discussion turns to guns ].

  The NRA has no problem with the denial of weapons to CONVICTED domestic abusers. This is a far cry from ACCUSED domestic abusers who , under due process, have the right to see their guilt or innocence that would either allow or deny their gun rights, heard by a court.
  This is the same sort of Kafkaesque crap being peddled in liberal states such as California. While being merely accused of a crime [ and especially with hate crimes, and those of rape, how many of these have ended up being false allegations? ] you are stripped of your gun rights and there is no quick or sudden re-establishment of these now-abridged 2nd Amendment rights but a long and red-tape-strewn road in getting them restored.
  That state does not stop there. You can be accused of a mental illness by even a family member [ a bill to include ''co-workers'' was stalled by a lineup of what few moderate Democrats and Republicans the state even has left ], which allows police to strip you of your 2nd rights even without the findings of an expert physician qualified as a mental health professional. It is a hysterical attempt to deny guns to the law abiding who have not been found guilty of having committed any crime, or suffer any debilitating mental condition. Upon this then, does the NRA oppose such tactics used by liberal blue states.

Liberal anti-reciprocity ...

Nathan Brittles  MZale • 12 hours ago

Possibly it is due to the fact that you are engaging in a false comparison. This is not about ''cargo shorts'' or ''Va Beach''. It is about the ability to transport a weapon legally purchased by a licenced and law-abiding gun owner through another state, or retain it while on all from a visit or vacation, to a move to another state, without fear of arrest or the imprisonment that can and does accompany such weapons transfers across state lines.
Foolishly, liberals, who demanded reciprocity from all from gay marriage [ before its decision at the national level by the USSC ], to legalized marijuana and abortion, would deny it simply based on their own gun hangups which illogically and always, begin with ''NRA'' instead of finding ways to deny thugs these weapons beyond slapping them on the wrist and turning them loose back into society.
Liberals lose their argument because they go after the law-abiding and not the criminal, whom they could care less about where reducing their numbers is concerned.

Food for thought...

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 Anonymous 11/22/14(Sat)22:33:34 No.23699354   [Reply]▶

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>2nd Amendment is for overthrowing tyranny!
>Remember the American Revolution
>Molon Labe!
I'm getting damn tired of hearing this nonsense from the gun community. In case you didn't get the memo, the government has been a tyranny since no later than 1865. If you really think the 2nd Amendment is for "resisting despotism," then you should start shooting now. Oh, what's that? You'd get killed if you did. Looks like that whole "protecting liberty" idea isn't working out after all.

If you really care about the right of revolution, worry about how to disarm the state. Without police and soldiers, the government has no teeth.

Colin Goddard is a Coward who wants to make you just as worthless...

paramedic70002

1:50 PM EST

Recently I saw Colin Goddard quoted as saying (I paraphrase), "I was paralyzed with fear, I was unable to do anything but lay on the floor and wait to be shot. Having a gun in that classroom would have been useless." 
 
I submit that this is the reason that the Goddards are gun grabbing zealots - Colin is a self described and admitted coward who could only wait for his own death instead of taking action to save his life or the lives of others. They project their impotence onto others, ignoring the countless incidents where armed citizens under attack were able to successfully defend themselves. From soldiers to cowboys to shopkeepers to police to homeowners; many people have used the gun for good - for self defense. Better to disarm everyone than be proven a coward (or a someone without impulse control, etc.) 
 
Assistant Principal Myrick, Pearl Mississippi, stopped a school shooter with a shotgun by retrieving his handgun from his car. Jeanne Assam, church security volunteer, stopped a church shooter armed with an AK before he could massacre the congregation. Nick Meli, shopper, stopped a mall shooter. The stories are out there. When you consider that far less than 1 percent of the population regularly carries a concealed firearm, imagine how many crimes could be stopped if every good person did the same. How many violent crimes and shooting sprees would never even be contemplated if the prospective shooter knew there was a good chance he would be stopped by an armed citizen? Except of course in Virginia's institutions of compulsory and higher learning, which to wanna be shooters, are attractive free fire zones. It's for the children, after all.